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  • #3842
    Gleawen
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    This is my planned build for my toons TR. as far as i can see the math adds up and should be viable as a strong soloer, but also bring something to the table in groups.
    FVS gives access to amelioriating strike

    If you see anyting out of sorts, or if i missed something essential, please let me hear 😀

    Twinfury
    Level 28 Neutral Good Human Male
    (12 Barbarian / 4 Rogue / 4 Favored Soul / 8 Epic)
    Hit Points: 427
    Spell Points: 369

    BAB: 18/18/23/28/28
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 12

    Starting

    Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
    (34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
    Strength 18 29
    Dexterity 15 19
    Constitution 14 18
    Intelligence 8 12
    Wisdom 8 12
    Charisma 12 16

    Tomes Used
    +4 Supreme tome

    Starting Feat/Enhancement
    Base Skills Modified Skills
    Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
    Balance 6 21
    Bluff 1 11
    Concentration 2 12
    Diplomacy 1 11
    Disable Device n/a n/a
    Haggle 5 18
    Heal 1 23
    Hide 2 12
    Intimidate 1 11
    Jump 8 23
    Listen -1 9
    Move Silently 2 12
    Open Lock 6 34
    Perform n/a n/a
    Repair -1 9
    Search -1 9
    Spellcraft -1 9
    Spot 3 13
    Swim 4 17
    Tumble 3 13
    Use Magic Device 5 34

    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 2 (Barbarian)

    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave

    Level 4 (Barbarian)

    Level 5 (Barbarian)

    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave

    Level 7 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Silver Flame

    Level 8 (Favored Soul)

    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 10 (Barbarian)

    Level 11 (Barbarian)

    Level 112 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

    Level 13 (Rogue)

    Level 14 (Favored Soul)

    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 16 (Barbarian)

    Level 17 (Barbarian)

    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell

    Level 19 (Barbarian)

    Level 20 (Rogue)

    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow

    Level 22 (Epic)

    Level 23 (Epic)

    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

    Level 25 (Epic)

    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality

    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Tactician

    #3843
    Legend
    Member

    These builds are near impossible to predict how effective end game as a lot depends on the player, I will say looks a fun build, the right gear will play a major role though.

    Will say the fvs strike will be a pain as an activated attack (they always a pain), also why take force of personality, your wis and charisma are far to close in numbers to be useful, take the perm haste feat.

    Just go for it.

    #3844
    Gleawen
    Member

    regarding Force of personality, i was kinda doubting that, but the parent build had it like that, i followed it as a plan as it will allow me to not gear after wisdom, but only cha.
    Hopefully that frees up a slot for some of the other things it needs

    but i was debating eiter the perma haste or dmg reduction instead, but again. depends on gear at that time

    #3845
    Portilis
    Member

    I suspect the FoP is on the basis that you’ll be wanting a charisma item anyway but not really a wisdom item other than for saves, therefore it will make a big difference at end game (add a +10 item and you’re talking a +7 difference).

    Given the style of build I’d say you need to include the enhancements (at least the main ones you’re after) as it doesn’t make much sense without those.

    If you’re going two-weapon fighting, why not use longswords and take Follower of the Sovereign Host and later Child of the Sovereign Host for the +2 hit, +1 damage total? I’d also say, especially with a character who is going to need very specific gear like this is and is going to be very high strength, why not go 2-handed?

    Also worth noting that Empower Healing doesn’t boost Ameliorating Strike (I’ve just tested it), so the only potential use you have for it is if you’re planning on getting Cocoon. If you’re planning on getting Cocoon, there’s not much point in taking 4 levels just to get Ameliorating Strike…

    #3846
    Gleawen
    Member

    Hmm, good news is that it frees up a feat slot for… something, gotta have to look into that. bad news, it leaves positive spellpower a good amount behind plan.

    #3916
    Gleawen
    Member

    Just for my own future reference, and for twins next life at some point.

    Twinfury 2
    Level 28 Neutral Good Human Female
    (12 Barbarian / 4 Rogue / 4 Favored Soul / 8 Epic)
    Hit Points: 457
    Spell Points: 369

    BAB: 18/18/23/28/28
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 12

    
                  Starting    Feat/Enhancement 
    Abilities    Base Stats    Modified Stats 
    (36 Point)    (Level 1)      (Level 28) 
    Strength           18                31 
    Dexterity          15                19 
    Constitution       14                20 
    Intelligence       10                14 
    Wisdom              8                12 
    Charisma           12                16 
    
    Tomes Used 
    + 4 supreme tome
    
                     Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               6                    16  +4 from tome
    Bluff                 1                    11
    Concentration         2                    13
    Diplomacy             1                    11
    Disable Device        4                    33  +4 from tome
    Haggle                5                    15
    Heal                  1                    23  +4 from tome
    Hide                  2                    12
    Intimidate            1                    11
    Jump                  4                    18 +4 from tome
    Listen               -1                     9
    Move Silently         2                    12
    Open Lock             6                    30  +4 from tome
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair                0                    10
    Search                4                    31  +4 from tome
    Spellcraft            0                    10
    Spot                  3                    13
    Swim                  5                    19
    Tumble                5                    15
    Use Magic Device      5                    34  
    

    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    Level 3 (Barbarian) Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Level 4 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
    Level 5 (Favored Soul)
    Level 6 (Barbarian) Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    Level 9 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Level 11 (Favored Soul)
    Level 12 (Barbarian) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    Level 15 (Barbarian) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    Level 18 (Barbarian) Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Level 21 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    Level 22 (Epic)
    Level 23 (Epic)
    Level 24 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    Level 25 (Epic)
    Level 26 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    Level 27 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    Level 28 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Tactician

    Planned wishlist Gear
    Helm: EE Black Dragon Helm + 3 insight dexterity (slot +7 dexterity, Slot +2 charisma)
    Goggles: +10 resistance of +9 Deadly
    Trinket: planar focus +3 insight constitution
    Armor: Black Dragon Armor: (slot physical resistance +14)
    Necklace: 125 fortification of combat mastery 4 / Stormreavers Pendant
    Cloak: Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf
    Belt: +10 strength of 50 false life (color slot: imperial blood)
    Bracer: Greater Convalescence of sustenance +13
    Ring 1:EE ring of shadows (slot +7 charisma)
    Ring 2: Dun Robar( +10 stun +7 constitution)/tower ring +6 con w 20% healing amp
    Boots: shroud mineral 2 +45 hp/Freedom of movement boots
    Weapon 1: Epic Elite Axe of Adaxus
    Weapon 2: Balizarde fully upgraded (slot +114 devotion)

    Enhancement: Human – Human Versatility: Saves Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human – Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human – Improved Recovery (Rank 1)

    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Smite Foe (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Resilience of Battle (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Toughness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Smite Weakness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Wall of Steel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Wall of Steel (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Wall of Steel (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Inflame (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Inflame (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Inflame (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Inflame: Saving Throws (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Inflame: Saving Throws (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Inflame: Saving Throws (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) – Ameliorating Strike (Rank 1)

    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Furious Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Pain Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Demoralizing Success (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Pain Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Do You Like Pain? (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Do You Like Pain? (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Do You Like Pain? (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Hardy Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Hardy Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – I Like Pain (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – I Like Pain (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – I Like Pain (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Cruel Cut (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Cruel Cut (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Cruell Cut (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Festering Wound (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Festering Wound (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Festering Wound (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – I Hit Back! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – I Hit Back! (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – I Hit Back! (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Dismember (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Dismember (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Dismember (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Critical Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) – Critical Rage (Rank 2)

    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) – Weapon Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) – Extend Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) – Extend Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) – Extend Rage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) – Uncanny Dodger (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) – Uncanny Dodger (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) – Uncanny Dodger (Rank 3)

    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) – Die Hard (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) – Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) – Extra Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) – Extra Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) – Extra Rage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) – Power Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) – Power Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) – Power Rage (Rank 3)

    #3917
    Gleawen
    Member

    Another take on twins future.

    Twinfury rng  
    Level 28 True Neutral Human Female 
    (4 Barbarian / 12 Ranger / 4 Favored Soul / 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 456 
    Spell Points: 658 
    
    BAB: 19/19/24/29/29 
    Fortitude: 22 
    Reflex: 18 
    Will: 13 
    
                  Starting    Feat/Enhancement 
    Abilities    Base Stats    Modified Stats 
    (36 Point)    (Level 1)      (Level 28) 
    Strength           17                30 
    Dexterity          14                18 
    Constitution       16                20 
    Intelligence       11                15 
    Wisdom              8                12 
    Charisma           12                16 
    
    Tomes Used 
    Supreme +4
     
                  Starting      Ending    Feat/Enhancement 
                 Base Skills  Base Skills  Modified Skills 
    Skills       (Level 1)    (Level 28)      (Level 28) 
    Balance            4              13               21 
    Bluff              1              3                11 
    Concentration      3              5                13 
    Diplomacy          1              3                11 
    Disable Device     n/a            n/a              n/a 
    Haggle             1              13               21 
    Heal               3              24               32 
    Hide               2              4                12 
    Intimidate         1              3                11 
    Jump               7              15               23 
    Listen             -1             1                9 
    Move Silently      2              8                16 
    Open Lock          n/a            n/a              n/a 
    Perform            n/a            n/a              n/a 
    Repair             0              2                10 
    Search             4              22               30 
    Spellcraft         0              2                10 
    Spot               3              22               30 
    Swim               3              10               18 
    Tumble             4              15               23 
    Use Magic Device   3              14               22 
     
    Level 1 (Ranger) 
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave 
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead 
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian 
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric 
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack 
     
    Level 2 (Barbarian) 
     
    Level 3 (Barbarian) 
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons 
     
    Level 4 (Ranger) 
     
    Level 5 (Ranger) 
     
    Level 6 (Ranger) 
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave 
     
    Level 7 (Ranger) 
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant 
     
    Level 8 (Ranger) 
     
    Level 9 (Ranger) 
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical:  Slashing Weapons 
     
    Level 10 (Ranger) 
     
    Level 11 (Ranger) 
     
    Level 12 (Favored Soul) 
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell 
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Silver Flame 
     
    Level 13 (Favored Soul) 
     
    Level 14 (Favored Soul) 
     
    Level 15 (Favored Soul) 
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge 
     
    Level 16 (Ranger) 
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider 
     
    Level 17 (Ranger) 
     
    Level 18 (Ranger) 
    Feat: (Selected) Power Critical 
     
    Level 19 (Barbarian) 
     
    Level 20 (Barbarian) 
     
    Level 21 (Epic) 
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical 
     
    Level 22 (Epic) 
     
    Level 23 (Epic) 
     
    Level 24 (Epic) 
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality 
     
    Level 25 (Epic) 
     
    Level 26 (Epic) 
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 
     
    Level 27 (Epic) 
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed 
     
    Level 28 (Epic) 
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot 
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Skill Boost (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Foe (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Weakness (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Strength (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Ameliorating Strike (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Graceful Death (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Deflect Arrows (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Dodge (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Dodge (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Dodge (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Elaborate Parry (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Elaborate Parry (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Elaborate Parry (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Evasive Dance (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Evasive Dance (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Evasive Dance (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Weapon Bond (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Resistance (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Ear Smash (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Ear Smash (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 3) 
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Knockout (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Knockout (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1) 
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2) 
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3) 
    
    
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